Maiden Mother Matriarch with Louise Perry BONUS: Lily Allen & the problem with polyamory
Nov 13, 2025
Diana Fleischman, an evolutionary psychology researcher, joins to dive into the provocative themes of Lily Allen's latest album. They explore why polyamory isn't a fit for everyone, revealing the nuances of jealousy from an evolutionary standpoint. Discussion includes the differing dynamics in open relationships and the surprising habits of celebrities when it comes to affairs. They also touch on the trend of middle-aged women using testosterone to enhance libido. This conversation uncovers deep insights into contemporary sexual behaviors.
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Songs That Capture Jealousy And Emotion
- Diana picks 'Ruminating' as a track that encapsulates jealousy and calls 'Relapse' beautiful despite no personal addiction experience.
- She mentions occasionally liking Valium when she's had it, showing personal reaction to the songs.
Affair Backstory Behind Lily Allen's 'Tennis'
- Louise Perry and Diana Fleischman discuss Lily Allen's song 'Tennis' and the affair with 'Madeline' (Natalie) on set with David Harbour.
- Diana recounts investigating the backstory and notes the affair partner appears to follow polyamory 'rules' and remains unjealous and composed.
Personality Predicts Polyamory Success
- Diana contrasts Lily's neuroses with the affair partner's composure, suggesting Lily is a poor candidate for polyamory.
- The album illustrates how jealousy and insecurity complicate non-monogamous arrangements.