The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert Jonathan Karl | The File Countdown
Nov 13, 2025
Jonathan Karl, ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent and author, dives into his new book, Retribution, discussing the latest political turbulence in Washington. He reveals insights from newly released Epstein emails suggesting Trump's awareness of Epstein's actions. The conversation also covers the implications of a recent shutdown and the release of thousands of Epstein documents. Additionally, Karl shares personal anecdotes about his dynamic with Trump, highlighting the tensions from their long history.
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Discharge Petition Forces Epstein File Vote
- Newly sworn Rep. Adelita Grijalva became the 218th signature forcing a vote to release Justice Department Epstein files.
- The move reopened scrutiny into emails suggesting Trump's knowledge of Epstein's conduct.
Emails Suggest Trump Awareness
- The Oversight Committee released Epstein emails alleging Trump knew about underage girls.
- Emails include exchanges where Epstein suggested Trump was aware and discussed crafting responses for him.
Michael Wolff's Epstein Connection
- Michael Wolff had a close relationship with Epstein and was pitched to write his biography.
- Wolff exchanged emails with Epstein about how to handle Trump questions and leverage influence if Trump won.
