In this thought-provoking discussion, Lino Pertile, a Harvard professor specializing in Dante, and Dirk Moses, a historian with expertise in post-war European culture, examine the connections between Dante's 'Inferno' and Primo Levi's harrowing experiences at Auschwitz. They delve into how literature serves as both a reflection of suffering and a resilient force in preserving humanity. The conversation highlights themes of survival, identity, and moral responsibility, exploring how literary culture can affirm hope amidst unimaginable darkness.
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Nature of Dante's Hell vs Purgatory
Dante's Inferno depicts hell as eternal, unchanging punishment with fresh pain that never fades.
This perpetual suffering starkly contrasts with the redeeming, willingly embraced pain in Dante's Purgatory.
insights INSIGHT
Contrasting Dante's Hell and Nazi Camps
Nazi camps differ fundamentally from Dante's hell because they lack divine justice or moral purpose.
Camps dehumanize prisoners without distinction of good or evil, reducing them to mere biological existence.
question_answer ANECDOTE
Levi's Ulysses Recital at Auschwitz
Primo Levi recounts teaching Italian and reciting Dante's Ulysses episode to his camp mate Jean at Auschwitz.
This literary moment lifts their spirits above the horrors of the camp, rekindling Primo's humanity.
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The way Germany should deal with its Nazi past was to revive belief in Goethe
The way Germany should deal with its Nazi past was to revive belief in Goethe
Friedrich Meinecke
All culture after Auschwitz, including its urgent critique, is garbage
All culture after Auschwitz, including its urgent critique, is garbage
Theodor Adorno
two monographs on Dante
two monographs on Dante
Lino Pertile
Annotazioni nel Dante con Trifon Gabriele
Annotazioni nel Dante con Trifon Gabriele
Lino Pertile
Dante in Context
Dante in Context
Zygmunt G. Barański
Lino Pertile
Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism
Hannah Arendt
We know now that a man can read Goethe or Rilke in the evening and he can play Bach and Schubert and go to his day's work at Auschwitz in the morning
We know now that a man can read Goethe or Rilke in the evening and he can play Bach and Schubert and go to his day's work at Auschwitz in the morning
George Steiner
New Italian Novel
Lino Pertile
Zygmunt G. Baranski
The Cambridge history of Italian literature
C. P. Brand
Lino Pertile
Homeric Ulysses
Homeric Ulysses
Homer
The mansion of culture is built of dog shit
The mansion of culture is built of dog shit
Bertolt Brecht
High culture was of no use in the lager
High culture was of no use in the lager
Jean Améry
The Divine Comedy
Dante Alighieri
The Divine Comedy is an Italian narrative poem begun around 1308 and completed around 1321. It is divided into three parts: Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso. The poem discusses the state of the soul after death and presents an image of divine justice, describing Dante's travels through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven. It is an allegory representing the soul's journey towards God, drawing on medieval Catholic theology and philosophy, especially Thomistic philosophy. The work is considered one of the greatest in Italian literature and Western literature, and it helped establish the Tuscan language as the standardized Italian language.
The Periodic Tale
Dr Karl Kruszelnicki
The Drowned and the Saved
Primo Levi
Dialectic of Enlightenment
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Theodor Adorno
Max Horkheimer
Max Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno's "Dialectic of Enlightenment" is a complex and influential work of critical theory, exploring the relationship between reason, myth, and domination. The authors argue that the Enlightenment's emphasis on reason has paradoxically led to new forms of domination and control. They trace the development of instrumental reason, which reduces everything to means-ends calculations, and its role in shaping modern society. The book explores the interplay between reason and myth, arguing that myth is not simply irrational but can also be a source of critical insight. "Dialectic of Enlightenment" remains a challenging but rewarding read, offering profound insights into the complexities of modernity and the dangers of unchecked rationality.
Inferno
Dante Alighieri
Inferno is the first part of Dante Alighieri's epic poem, The Divine Comedy. It describes Dante's journey through the nine concentric circles of Hell, each representing a different level of sin and punishment. Guided by Virgil, Dante encounters various historical and mythological figures, witnessing their punishments which are symbolic of their sins. The poem is an allegory of the soul's journey towards God, with Inferno representing the recognition and rejection of sin. Dante's journey through Hell is also a personal and spiritual exploration, reflecting his own struggles and the political and social issues of his time.
Autobiography
Benjamin Franklin
The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin is a seminal work that spans several decades of Franklin's life, from his childhood in Boston to his later years as a respected statesman and scientist. The autobiography is divided into four parts, each written during different periods of his life. It covers his apprenticeship to his brother James, his early career as a printer and publisher, his experiments with electricity, and his civic and political involvements. The work is notable for its insights into Franklin's personal life, his pursuit of moral perfection, and his contributions to American history and culture.
If This Is a Man
Primo Levi
This book is an autobiographical account of Primo Levi's experiences as a prisoner in Auschwitz from February 1944 to January 1945. It describes the harsh conditions, the dehumanization of prisoners, and the struggle to maintain humanity in the face of extreme suffering. Levi's narrative is characterized by its calm and reflective tone, aiming to inform readers about the atrocities of the Nazi camp system and to serve as a personal act of 'interior liberation'[3][4][5].
Is there a degree of suffering and degradation beyond which a man or a woman ceases to be a human being? A point beyond which our spirit dies and only pure physiology survives? And to what extent, if any, may literary culture be capable of preserving the integrity of our humanity?
These are some of the questions that this lecture proposes to consider with reference to two places where extreme suffering is inflicted – the fictional hell imagined by Dante in his Inferno, and the real hell experienced by Primo Levi at Auschwitz and described in If This Is A Man.
SPEAKER:
Professor Lino Pertile, Carl A. Pescosolido Professor of Romance Languages and Literatures, Harvard University