The Fascia Guide 15. Dr. Neil Theise on fascia, complexity, and the nature of consciousness
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Oct 30, 2025 
In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Neil Theise, a liver pathologist and fascia researcher, delves into the interconnectedness of fascia and consciousness. He reveals how fascia acts as a crucial interface within the body, facilitating energy flows and communication. Theise discusses the significance of fractal patterns, electromagnetic fields, and collective consciousness, challenging conventional medical perspectives. Joining him are hosts Axel and Hans, who explore the need for complementarity in understanding life’s complexity, urging a shift in how we view medicine and healing.
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Complementary Perspectives Reveal The Body
- Different views of the body (anatomical, molecular, systemic) each reveal and conceal aspects; full understanding requires complementarity.
- Neil Theise frames fascia as a meeting point for multiple valid perspectives rather than a single truth.
Stem Cell Work Sparked Complexity Thinking
- Theise began exploring complexity after adult stem cell work showed surprising cellular plasticity around 2001.
- A collaboration with artist Jane Prophet connected his cellular observations to ant colonies and slime molds as models.
Scale Determines Whether Body Is Thing Or Process
- Bodies can be seen either as unitary objects or as emergent phenomena from interacting cells depending on scale.
- Whether something appears as a 'thing' or a 'process' depends on your observational scale.
