

SEC DeFi Roundtable Recap, Digital Asset Venture Landscape, The State of ZK, The Future of DeFi with Nick White, Dmitriy Berenzon, DeFi Dad, Shiv Shankar, Omer Goldberg and Camila Russo
Jun 11, 2025
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Dmitriy Berenzon
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Camila Russo

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Omer Goldberg
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Shiv Shankar

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DeFi Dad
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Nick White
Nick White, VP of Celestia Labs, shares insights on modular blockchains, while DeFi Dad discusses Ethereum's resilience and innovative financial primitives. Shiv Shankar, CEO of Boundless, explores regulatory shifts and their implications for the industry. Omer Goldberg of Chaos Labs delves into oracle problems and market risks. Camila Russo highlights the dynamic landscape of crypto media, and Dmitriy Berenzon offers a deep dive into the venture capital trends in the digital asset space. They also touch on the rise of Zero-Knowledge technology and its potential impacts.
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Positive Shift in Crypto Regulation
- The SEC's recent DeFi roundtable shows a more constructive regulatory approach embracing crypto's core American values.
- This new clarity can lead to healthier growth by reducing bad actors and aligning regulators with crypto innovators.
Crypto Moats and Network Effects
- Defensive moats in crypto mostly come from strong network effects and regulatory lock-ins, not from products themselves.
- Network effects act like gravity wells, making it hard for competitors to supplant leading crypto networks.
Quantum Threat to Bitcoin Keys
- Quantum computing could break Bitcoin's encryption within 5 to 15 years, posing risks to digital signatures and key security.
- The problem is mostly implementation and coordination, not lack of post-quantum cryptography solutions.