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'Get Over It': Politics Is Part Of Foreign Policy, White House Says

Oct 17, 2019
The White House's evolving stance on Ukraine reveals intriguing diplomatic strategies. Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney discusses the expectation of concessions in foreign relations. Meanwhile, Ambassador Sondland's testimony sheds light on the controversial nature of U.S. aid and potential quid pro quo arrangements. The podcast also explores the complexities of shadow foreign policy, particularly Rudy Giuliani's influence, and the resulting tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations amidst the impeachment inquiry.
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ANECDOTE

Mulvaney's Press Briefing

  • Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney held a press briefing and addressed questions about the Ukrainian controversy.
  • He acknowledged U.S. aid was withheld from Ukraine but claimed it was unrelated to Biden.
INSIGHT

Political Influence in Foreign Policy

  • Mulvaney admitted to political influence in foreign policy but argued it's common practice.
  • He insisted that the aid freeze was not tied to Biden investigations, despite Trump raising the issue.
INSIGHT

Sondland's Testimony

  • Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the E.U., testified before Congress in the impeachment inquiry.
  • Sondland confirmed involvement in Ukraine talks but asserted it was within his ambassadorial duties.
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