Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! | Greek Mythology & the Ancient Mediterranean RE-AIR: Conversations: So Are They Cousins Or Not?! The Love of Achilles & Patroclus w/ Charlotte Gregory
Jun 17, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Charlotte Gregory, a PhD student exploring the queer interpretations of Achilles and Patroclus, dives into their complex relationship. Topics include how ancient texts portray their bond without modern labels and how contemporary adaptations, like 'The Song of Achilles,' influence perceptions of masculinity and love. The conversation highlights the evolution of their narrative over time, from epic poetry to today's media, sparking a dialogue on identity, power dynamics, and the ongoing relevance of their story in modern contexts.
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Male Gaze Complicates Masculinity
- The male gaze in films like Troy creates tension by objectifying male bodies while targeting mostly male audiences. - Attempts to affirm Achilles' heterosexuality reveal underlying suppression of queerness.
Dominant-Passive Roles Key
- The ancient Greek pederastic system emphasized dominant and passive roles over sexual orientation. - Understanding this socio-sexual dynamic is key to interpreting male relationships in Greek mythology.
Iliad Hints at Deeper Bond
- Homer's Iliad portrays Achilles and Patroclus as intensely close, possibly lovers, through coded gestures and roles. - Mourning practices depicted assign Patroclus a feminine, wifely role, suggesting a deeper bond.
