The Ben Shapiro Show The Dark Side of Fairy Tales | Jonathan Pageau
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Oct 6, 2024 
Jonathan Pageau, a French-Canadian liturgical artist and public speaker, explores the rich symbolism embedded in classic fairy tales like "Jack and the Beanstalk". He emphasizes how these stories convey deep truths and shape cultural norms. Pageau discusses the significance of societal roles in identity and community, and critiques modern reinterpretations of biblical narratives. The conversation dives deep into the moral complexities reflected in these tales, contrasting traditional storytelling with contemporary oversimplifications.
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Fairy Tales' Biblical Roots
- Fairy tales, often seen as children's stories, are deeply connected to the Bible and cultural norms.
- They use similar patterns and symbolism but are more accessible, especially for younger audiences.
Magic as Meaning
- Magic in fairy tales, like in C.S. Lewis or Tolkien, represents the world's deep patterns and vertical causality.
- However, the Bible prohibits using this "magic" for personal gain or twisting reality.
Jack's Symbolic Journey
- Jonathan Pageau analyzes Jack and the Beanstalk, highlighting its coming-of-age themes and layered symbolism.
- Jack's journey involves trading the feminine, encountering masculinity, and acquiring patterns of being.