The Forrest Wilson Experience What if A.I. is Here to Wake Us Up? with Matt Manning and Ethan Wells
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Jan 10, 2026 Matt Manning, founder of The Liminal Leap, and Ethan Wells, an engineer turned psycho-spiritual practitioner, explore the transformative potential of AI. They discuss how AI can aid psycho-spiritual development while addressing ethical concerns. Matt shares how AI has accelerated his own therapy. The guests dive into existential risks and the importance of human perspective in AI interactions. They envision AI as a tool for reflecting human development and argue for an education system that nurtures relational skills and collective healing.
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Liminal Moment Calls For New Infrastructure
- The Liminal Leap frames current times as an in-between where old systems die and new ones emerge, requiring new infrastructure and leadership.
- Matt Manning views this moment as an incubator for building structures fit for an emergent future.
From Skepticism To Purposeful Curiosity
- Ethan Wells maps a personal arc from skepticism to deep curiosity about AI's usefulness for inner work.
- He highlights privacy, environmental, societal, and existential red flags as prerequisites to ethical engagement.
Treat AI As One Perspective
- Increase perspective-taking and avoid treating AI as the sole source of truth when it supplies confident answers.
- Use AI as one deep perspective among many and retain human judgment and plural viewpoints.
