
The Arena Interview | What God Has Joined Together w/ Gavin Ortlund
Nov 17, 2025
Gavin Ortlund, a Reverend Dr. and Christian author known for his work in theology and apologetics, joins the discussion on the divine nature of marriage. He explores C.S. Lewis's critique of modern relationships and encourages a biblical view of joy in submission. Gavin emphasizes how marriage fosters deep unity, reflecting God's love and inviting others to faith. He shares practical advice for couples, addressing concerns about building godly marriages, particularly for those from broken homes, while urging young men to honor marriage as a sacred commitment.
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Marriage As A Divine Reality
- Marriage is a divine institution that we submit to rather than invent ourselves.
- Embracing biblical marriage can transform offense at submission into joy and meaning.
Grandparents' Fifty-Year Unity
- Gavin recalls his grandparents completing each other's sentences after 50 years of marriage.
- Their shared rhythms illustrated a deep, lived unity that developed over decades.
Marriages Authenticate The Gospel
- Authentic marriages in a parish give credibility to the gospel's promises.
- Seeing lived unity convinces outsiders that Christian teaching can be embodied in real life.



