
The Holy Post 699: The Limits of Liberalism & Punishing Immigrants with Matthew Soerens
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Dec 10, 2025 Matthew Soerens, Vice President of Advocacy and Policy at World Relief, joins to shed light on the shifting landscape of U.S. immigration. He discusses the Trump administration's evolving policies, particularly the punitive approach towards immigrants and the chaos of conflicting rhetoric. Soerens passionately argues against collective punishment, citing biblical principles of dignity. He also highlights the need for humane alternatives to detention and the challenges facing various refugee populations. The conversation reveals the complex intersection of policy, morality, and Christian advocacy in today's immigration debate.
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Progressive Voices Crave Moral Language
- Progressive thinkers like Ezra Klein recognize religion offers moral frameworks the market cannot supply.
- Klein notes Christian and Catholic traditions retain richer vocabularies for virtue and human flourishing.
Talk Values Alongside Policy
- Discuss public policy alongside deeper questions of human flourishing instead of only procedural fixes.
- Engage churches and families to rebuild communal norms that reduce harmful behaviors and isolation.
Reevaluate Traditions Before Removing Them
- Chesterton's fence cautions against removing long-standing institutions without understanding their purpose.
- Many inherited structures may restrain harmful behaviors even if imperfect and should be evaluated before discard.



