The NPR Politics Podcast Hill Calls Investigations A "Domestic Political Errand"; Holmes Details Trump Call
Nov 21, 2019
In a gripping finale of public hearings, former insiders reveal critical details about a call involving President Trump and Ukraine. A foreign service officer shares significant insights into how political motivations entwined with foreign policy. Testimonies showcase contrasting narratives about national security versus political agendas. Insights into the political pressures surrounding aid to Ukraine shed light on the complexities of U.S.-Ukraine relations. Tensions run high as witnesses grapple with the implications of their revelations.
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Overheard Conversation
- David Holmes overheard a call between Gordon Sondland and President Trump.
- Trump inquired about investigations, and Sondland confirmed Trump's interest, using vulgar language.
Clash of Interests
- Fiona Hill, a British-born, naturalized U.S. citizen, testified.
- She highlighted the clash between national security advisors and those pressuring Ukraine.
Bolton's Analogy
- Fiona Hill recounted John Bolton's description of Rudy Giuliani as a "hand grenade".
- Bolton believed Giuliani's actions would have negative consequences.