E271: The Future of VC: Space, Energy, Defense

Dec 29, 2025

In this enlightening discussion, Jonathan Lacoste, Founder and General Partner of Space VC, dives into the nuances of frontier tech investing. He highlights the crucial difference between deep tech and frontier tech, emphasizing the importance of founder migration as a key signal for early investment opportunities. Jonathan shares his insights on why grit and mission often outweigh IQ in predicting success. The conversation also covers the rising significance of hardware startups and the advantages of concentrated portfolios over diversification in early-stage investing.

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INSIGHT

Deep Tech vs. Frontier Tech

Deep tech centers on scientific breakthroughs and lab research with long lead times.
Frontier tech shifts risk from science to engineering and commercialization at the near-adoption frontier.

INSIGHT

Founder Migration Predicts Market Shift

Founder and talent migration into a niche is the strongest early signal that an area is moving from non-consensus to consensus.
That migration brings specialized capital, shared vocabulary, customers, policy tailwinds, and market maps.

ADVICE

Invest Early, Not In Consensus

As an emerging manager, invest before an idea becomes consensus to capture price discovery and creator alpha.
Avoid competing in consensus markets where price discovery has disappeared and capital wins scale.

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How do you spot a frontier-tech company before it becomes obvious and why is being early so much harder than being right? In this episode, I talk with Jonathan Lacoste, Founder and General Partner of Space VC, about investing at the moment when ideas are still non-consensus. Jonathan explains the difference between deep tech and frontier tech, why founder migration is the strongest signal of emerging opportunity, and how pre-seed investors create alpha by backing contrarian founders before markets agree. We discuss how grit and mission outperform IQ, why concentration beats diversification in early-stage portfolios, and how patience compounds into an edge over time.

Highlights:

The difference between deep tech, frontier tech, and “just tech”
Why founder migration predicts where value is forming
Investing before consensus vs. competing after consensus
Why pre-seed alpha comes from people, not theses
How grit, obsession, and mission predict founder success
Why concentration works better than diversification at pre-seed
How Jonathan evaluates first-time founders before companies exist
Lessons from building and selling his own startup
Why hardware and industrial tech are becoming venture-scale
How patience and restraint compound into long-term advantage

Guest Bio:

Jonathan Lacoste is the Founder and General Partner of Space VC, a pre-seed venture firm backing frontier technology startups across space, defense, energy, robotics, autonomy, and physical AI. Before founding Space VC, Jonathan co-founded an enterprise software company that was later acquired by Vista, and he became one of the youngest founders to raise venture capital at age 19. He brings a founder-first approach shaped by firsthand experience building through multiple pivots, near-failures, and a successful exit. Originally from Ohio, Jonathan has spent over 15 years as a founder, investor, and advisor working with some of the most technically ambitious teams in the world.

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(0:00) Introduction (0:42) Impact of economic conditions on startup formation and differences between deep tech and frontier tech (4:02) Transitioning from deep tech to mainstream with examples (6:12) Non-consensus investing and its importance for emerging managers (9:21) Understanding the two asset classes within venture capital (10:15) The significance of founder migration from top tech companies (12:16) Comparing thesis-led and founder-led investment approaches (18:48) The role of grit in hard tech entrepreneurship and Jebbit's challenges (24:16) Jonathan Lacoste's background and the concept of grit in startups (27:47) Mission orientation in founders and its impact on startup success (29:13) Effects of large liquidity events on founder motivation (30:29) Economic rationale for investing in frontier tech startups (32:32) Evolution of investment strategies from fund one to fund two (35:02) Communicating strategy and differentiation to LPs and aligning with them long-term (40:54) Advice on recognizing excellence and patience in capital deployment (43:48) Differences between successful entrepreneurs and VCs (45:06) Closing remarks