The Bulwark Podcast

Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

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Feb 4, 2025
Anne Applebaum, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and Atlantic staff writer, dives deep into the alarming intersection of technology and governance. She highlights Elon Musk’s unprecedented influence over U.S. policy and likens his actions to those of authoritarian regimes. The conversation raises ethical dilemmas for government officials pressured to conform. Applebaum also warns about the implications for U.S. soft power, particularly regarding USAID's role in promoting democracy abroad, amidst rising authoritarianism and challenges in social media regulation.
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INSIGHT

Unprecedented Access and Influence

  • Elon Musk's government access lacks precedent, resembling a cyber warfare attack if done by a foreign entity.
  • His private citizen/advisor hybrid role lets him shape policies benefiting his companies, exceeding Russian oligarch influence.
ANECDOTE

DC Attorney's Misdirected Investigation

  • The new DC attorney, Ed Martin, plans to investigate those impeding Musk's access, not Musk's actions themselves.
  • Martin even acknowledged a MAGA account's call to probe a Musk critic, creating an alternate legality.
INSIGHT

Extralegality and Secrecy

  • Musk's actions lack legal basis, marking a new phase in US governance outside established norms.
  • He demands secrecy about his young team's identities, revealed by Wired, while seeking access to government data.
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