Niall Ferguson, a historian, author, and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, joins Scott to discuss the state of play around the tech war between the U.S. and China. Niall talks about each of the country’s strengths and weaknesses, and why he thinks we’re moving toward Cold War II. Niall also shares his thoughts on the fintech space as it relates to Ant Group’s suspended IPO.

Follow Niall on Twitter, @nfergus.

Niall’s reading recommendations:

We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

Sir Walter Scott novels

The Last Days of Mankind by Karl Kraus

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