The Good Fight

George Packer on Liberal Values in Authoritarian Times

Nov 8, 2025
In a compelling dialogue, George Packer, award-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic, shares insights on the interplay of fiction and political decline. He explores the motivations behind authoritarian movements and the risks of utopian ideals turning coercive. Packer delves into the emotional core of his novel 'The Emergency,' discussing family dynamics, societal collapse, and how humanist values can persist amid chaos. Finally, he offers advice on how liberals can contend with Trumpism while preserving decency and moral integrity.
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Fiction Reveals Emotional Truths

  • George Packer chose fiction to probe emotional depths that journalism couldn't reach about societal decline.
  • Allegorical dystopias clear present details to reveal pure emotions and ideas driving political collapse.
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Utopian Idealism Masks Power Drives

  • Packer observes utopian impulses often pair with a will to power and coercion.
  • He contrasts left's moral pressure with the right's threat of violence as different paths to domination.
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Slow Erosion, Sudden Collapse

  • Packer frames collapse as gradual erosion followed by sudden failure: "going bankrupt gradually and then suddenly."
  • He attributes the collapse partly to boredom and loss of faith in the old order.
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