The David McWilliams Podcast DeepSeek, Deep State or Deep Pockets? Karen Hao on China’s AI Power Play
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Jan 30, 2025 
Karen Hao, an award-winning journalist specializing in AI, discusses China's groundbreaking AI company DeepSeek. She reveals how DeepSeek is outpacing OpenAI at a fraction of the cost, fundamentally altering the tech landscape. The conversation dives into the geopolitical ramifications of this shift, questioning if the U.S. is inadvertently strengthening its competitor. Hao emphasizes how innovation thrives under constraints, challenging traditional notions of funding and success in tech. This exploration showcases a riveting battle for AI supremacy on the global stage.
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DeepSeek Disrupts AI
- DeepSeek, a Chinese AI company, outperformed OpenAI while spending significantly less.
- This disrupted the "winner takes all" model in Silicon Valley.
Constraints Fuel Innovation
- DeepSeek's success highlights how constraints can fuel innovation, even with inferior technology.
- American restrictions inadvertently strengthened Chinese competitors.
Creativity Over Capital
- DeepSeek proves human creativity can surpass financial power in innovation.
- The company achieved success with $5 million, challenging the American assumption that billions are necessary.
