Call your counselor back up to the bridge, because Season Five… Guys Burgers and Fries continues! Tomi Lähdesmäki (Director of Brand and Creative at Pair of Thieves) joins Sean to talk about labeling your save icons, post-vacation acclimation, and Jerri Springer’s wildest moments—live and uncensored.

You can find Tomi’s work with Pair of Thieves, including the aforementioned picture of Jerri himself, on shelves at your local Target or on their website, pairofthieves.com. You can find Tomi’s personal work on his site, tomilahdesmaki.com, and give him a follow on Instagram to hear some of his latest music at @tomifromspace.

BIG NEWS! Fontroversy, our sister podcast produced with the students of Sean’s DES 399 Public Design Communication class at PSUGD last year, is producing a live episode for this year’s fully-online AIGA Design Conference! The show will be happening on the conference’s mainstage on Thursday, October 10 at 2pm Pacific! The only way to see the show is to attend the conference, and you can do so online from anywhere in the world—head on over to the AIGA’s website, aiga.org, to register today!

This episode was recorded September 9, 2024 in the Rat’s Nest.

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Fudge It A Little Bit (with Tomi Lähdesmäki)