Laurel Schwulst, an artist, designer, and educator known for founding the Fruitful School program, joins to discuss her vision for a PBS-like organization on the Internet. She proposes an initiative to foster a more humane web that encourages curiosity and community. The conversation delves into ultralight web design, highlighting the importance of accessibility and personal expression. Schwulst contrasts gifting with sharing, emphasizing the relational value in digital interactions. Ultimately, she envisions a curated online space that champions creativity and connection.