
 The Dad Edge Podcast
 The Dad Edge Podcast The 4 Stages of Leadership ft. Scott McCarthy
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 Dec 6, 2024  Scott McCarthy, a distinguished Canadian Army officer and Chief Leadership Officer at Moving Forward Leadership, shares his extensive expertise in psychological safety and leadership. He breaks down Tim Clark's four stages of leadership: Belonger Safety, Learner Safety, Contributor Safety, and Challenger Safety. Through compelling military anecdotes, he illustrates the importance of fostering open communication and trust within teams. The conversation also emphasizes the balance of maintaining standards while supporting personal growth, both in professional settings and family life. 
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Values-Driven Belonging
- People leave organizations when stated values don't align with actions.
- True values are demonstrated through behavior, not just words.
Four Stages of Psychological Safety
- Foster psychological safety in four stages: Belonger, Learner, Contributor, and Challenger.
- Create an environment where people feel safe to belong, learn, contribute ideas, and challenge leadership.
Learning from Mistakes
- Scott McCarthy's team member made a $40,000 budgeting error.
- Instead of reprimanding, they used an After Action Review (AAR) to learn and improve as a team.


