In this moving and deeply personal episode, Levi and Jennie sit down with Shawn and Jill Johnson to talk about their new book Kiss the Fire—a message born straight out of pain, perseverance, and the unwavering hope they’ve found in Jesus. Shawn opens up about his journey with Parkinson’s and the moment everything changed with one doctor’s appointment, while Jill shares what it looks like to cling to faith when life takes an unexpected turn.

Together, the Johnsons reveal how “kissing the fire” has become more than just a phrase—it’s their daily declaration to keep trusting God, even when the flames are fierce. This conversation is raw, honest, and full of life-giving encouragement for anyone walking through their own season of struggle.

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Time Stamps:

01:09 – The diagnosis

06:06 – Kiss the Fire

08:12 – Writing through pain

10:53 – Hope in the hard days

21:48 – Finding balance and healing

29:45 – A prayer for the fight

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