This episode examines how uncrewed systems have been used in the Ukraine war and how the US can use this information to develop countermeasures.

Guest Biographies

Samuel Bendett is an advisor with CNA’s Russia Studies Program. His research focuses on Russian defense and technology developments; uncrewed, robotic, and autonomous military systems; artificial intelligence; and Russian military capabilities. His analysis of Russia’s war against Ukraine has appeared in globally read news outlets such as VICE and The Washington Post.

Michael Petersen is a principal research scientist in CNA's Russia Studies Program. He is an expert on Russian military strategy, operations, and net assessments of high-intensity conflict. From 2023-2024, he served as senior advisor to Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Lisa Franchetti.

Further Reading

CNA InDepth: Drones Over Ukraine

CNA Report: Russia’s Use of Uncrewed Systems in Ukraine

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