It's the 53rd episode of ONE HEAT MINUTE, the podcast examining Michael Mann's 1995 crime epic HEAT minute by minute (52:00-53:00). Host Blake Howard is joined by TV writer, script consultant and film reviewer Lisa Malouf. Blake and Lisa discuss Van Sant's death wish and clearly shitting oneself, a lifetime of characters DNA permeating through performances and the psychology of the this game of cop versus crook.
