Conn Carroll, the author of "Sex and the Citizen," digs into the intriguing history of marriage and its sociopolitical ramifications. He challenges the notion that humans are naturally non-monogamous, arguing instead for a biological basis for monogamy. Carroll connects the rise of agriculture to the increase in polygamy, noting how social hierarchies shaped access to partners. The discussion also weaves through the evolution of family structures in America, examining how cultural dynamics influence contemporary relationships.
The podcast emphasizes that monogamous relationships foster cooperation and trust, leading to healthier families and societal structures.
Historical analysis reveals substantial shifts in marriage dynamics due to legal rulings and cultural movements promoting individual rights over traditional family bonds.
Economic challenges and societal pressures, including addiction and low wages, significantly impact men's ability to form stable, meaningful relationships.
Deep dives
Introduction to Monogamy and Its Importance
The podcast discusses the significance of monogamy in human relationships, exploring its advantages over other arrangements like polygamy. It emphasizes that monogamous relationships foster cooperation and trust, leading to healthier families and societies. The conversation references evolutionary psychology to explain why humans may naturally gravitate toward monogamy despite the allure of other arrangements. Both speakers agree that while some men may fantasize about polygamous lifestyles, monogamy ultimately benefits society as a whole.
Cultural Shifts in Family and Marriage Norms
Historical examples illustrate that marriage dynamics have evolved significantly, particularly in Western societies from the mid-20th century onward. The podcast elucidates how legal rulings and cultural movements have challenged traditional family structures, leading to the promotion of individualism over familial bonds. Key cases such as Eisenstadt v. Baird are mentioned as pivotal moments where the focus shifted from the nuclear family to individual rights. This shift prompted changes in societal expectations regarding marriage, dramatically altering family life in America.
Impact of Feminism and Policy on American Families
The conversation delves into the influence of feminism, especially the shifts initiated in the 1960s, on American marriage and family structures. It highlights how feminist leaders advocated for women's independence, often at the expense of traditional family roles. References to anti-family policies implemented during this period reveal significant challenges for marriage rates and family stability, particularly within marginalized communities. Moreover, the impact of welfare programs on single motherhood is discussed, linking economic factors to declining marriage rates.
Contemporary Issues and Economic Pressures
Current socio-economic challenges are examined, particularly focusing on how issues such as low wages for men and the rise of addictive behaviors impact family formation and stability. The speakers discuss how online gambling and pornography affect relationships, particularly among low-skilled men, hindering their ability to form meaningful connections. As societal expectations shift with regards to marriage and child-rearing, these pressures complicate the landscape of modern relationships. The podcast underscores the necessity of addressing these urgent issues to foster better family outcomes in the future.
Future of Marriage and Traditional Values
The podcast concludes with speculation about the future of marriage in light of rising traditionalism and emerging political figures advocating for family-centric policies. Both speakers express cautious optimism that renewed emphasis on monogamous family structures could benefit society. The discussion touches on how changes in public perception and policy could lead to a resurgence of interest in traditional family values. Ultimately, the importance of adapting societal norms to encourage stable, supportive family dynamics is prioritized as a pathway to societal improvement.
On this episode of Unsupervised Learning Razib talks to Conn Carroll, the author of Sex and the Citizen: How the Assault on Marriage Is Destroying Democracy. Caroll is currently an editor for the Washington Examiner, but previously he was the communications director for Senator Mike Lee of Utah, an assistant director at the Heritage Foundation, White House correspondent for Townhall.com and a reporter at National Journal. Carroll wrote Sex and the Citizen in response to what he felt was misleading and biased reporting in the mainstream media on the origins and implications of marriage and monogamy.
Razib asks Carroll how he refutes the ideas presented in Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jethá’sSex at Dawn, which argues that prehistoric humans were non-monogamous. Carroll outlines the current mainstream thinking in evolutionary anthropology and primatology, and all the biological reasons that indicate that Homo sapiens is far more monogamous than our common chimpanzee and gorilla cousins, most clearly in our reduced sexual dimorphism.
But while our hunter-gatherer past was defined by monogamy, Sex and the Citizen argues that the rise of agriculture resulted in the explosion of polygamy, as high status males in societies defined by incredible inequality began to monopolize access to women, culminating in the explosion of Y chromosomal “star phylogenies,” where supermale lineages exploded all over Eurasian 4,000 years ago. Carroll then explains that the Romans and Greeks took steps toward enforcing monogamy as a legal institution, and Christianity introduced the idea of sexual fidelity upon men. After Christianity popularized egalitarian monogamous marriage, Sex and the Citizen follows in Joe Henrich’s wake in The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous. Carroll discusses the Catholic Church’s strict policies on incest and adoption, which destroyed the power of elite related clans in the West, and hastened the emergence of the Western European marriage norm of independent and separate nuclear families, rather than extended families as the primary unit of kinship in society.
In the second half of Sex and the Citizen Carroll addresses the social history and policy changes in relation to marriage in the US. While Western European societies took a significant step away from familialism, Carroll explains that American marriage was even more individualistic and radical, as nuclear families spread out to the frontier, away from their extended kin networks. He also contextualizes the rise of the 1950’s nuclear family, which some scholars have argued was an aberration in American history. Carroll argues that actually it was an extension of earlier American norms, but the rise of the wage-based capitalist economy allowed for couples to set up separate households earlier in their lives. Carroll concludes the discussion outlining the 1970’s policy changes in welfare provision that discouraged marriage, noting the decline of the institution across American society over the last 60 years, and how government policy might reverse it.
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