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Interview: Brent Johnson LIVE (Interest Rate Predictions For 2025)

Oct 29, 2024
Brent Johnson, a macroeconomics expert and author of Macro Alchemist, shares his insights on the future of interest rates and the economy. He discusses the expected impact of interest rate cuts on the market and the intricate dynamics of U.S. Treasuries amid global economic challenges. Johnson emphasizes the historical context of U.S. debt and the resilience needed to navigate potential changes. The conversation also includes a deep dive into the psychology of investors and the complexities surrounding the U.S. dollar's position as the world reserve currency.
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Quick takeaways

  • Understanding short-term market fluctuations is crucial, as they can contradict long-term macroeconomic views on interest rates.
  • Brent Johnson's 'milkshake theory' suggests rising U.S. interest rates could attract global capital while initially increasing treasury yields.

Deep dives

The Gentleman’s Bet and Investing Lessons

A bet was made regarding the performance of TLT, a bond ETF, with one party believing interest rates would decline and the other predicting a rise. This wager highlighted the importance of understanding short-term market fluctuations in the context of longer-term trends. The individual who bet on falling rates realized that while macro views are critical, short-term market behavior often contradicts those views. They learned that interest rates might rise even when the Federal Reserve starts cutting rates, as past market cycles have shown similar patterns of initial rate increases before eventual declines.

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