

Episode 2312: Robert D. Kaplan on the decadence of Trump's America
Jan 21, 2025
Robert D. Kaplan, a geopolitical expert and author, delves into the decline of American identity in the era of Trump, emphasizing the 'decadence' associated with imperial decline. He draws haunting parallels between today's America and historical precedents like Weimar Germany. Kaplan critiques the polarization of society, advocating for a return to classical liberalism to navigate the current landscape. He also touches on global crises, Europe's challenges with migration, and the intricate dynamics of the Ukraine conflict, highlighting the urgency of seeking peace.
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Decadence in Trump's America
- Robert Kaplan observes Trump's inauguration, noting the presence of Silicon Valley moguls.
- He argues this exemplifies "decadence" preceding imperial decline.
Decadence Defined
- Kaplan defines decadence as the mature stage of civilizations, marked by style over substance.
- He connects this to Spengler and Ibn Khaldun's theories of cyclical decline.
Globalization's Dividing Effect
- Kaplan argues globalization split America into a globalized elite and a nationalistic hinterland.
- This division eliminated the political center, making elections existential.