Donald Trump wants to write the next chapter in US spaceflight history.

With billionaire tech CEO and SpaceX founder Elon Musk by his side, he’s outlined an ambitious agenda: to land the first humans on Mars before he leaves office.

Whether or not that goal is achievable, the plan would massively reshape America’s space program to the benefit of Musk’s company.

NASA has already suffered from Musk’s efforts to gut the federal government through the Department of Government Efficiency – and key SpaceX officials have been gaining power at the space agency.

Today, Wall Street Journal reporter Emily Glazer, on Elon Musk’s plan to take over NASA.

This episode was originally published in April 2025.

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Guest: Wall Street Journal reporter, Emily Glazer.

Photo: AP Photo/NASA

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