Theologian and author NT Wright and academic Esau McCaulley join host Tim Mackie of The Bible Project for a conversation on race and the church. They delve into the historical context of race and the church, explore the division and dangerous spin-offs of the Reformation, discuss the historical development of human races and its impact on Western European Christians, examine the intellectual history of theology and the development of biblical interpretation, explore Christianity in the public square during the industrial revolution and mass inequalities, and discuss the concept of general revelation and the importance of discernment.