The Charlie Kirk Show

What Went Right in Arizona, and Left Everywhere Else

Nov 5, 2025
Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action, shares insights from recent elections, focusing on grassroots efforts in Mesa, Arizona. He discusses how a strategic recall operation took down a local leader and why Mesa's political dynamics matter for broader trends in Arizona and beyond. The conversation dives into the challenges Republicans face, emphasizing turnout issues and the need for better messaging to connect with voters. They also touch on the Democrats' strong ground game and its implications for upcoming elections.
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ANECDOTE

Mesa Recall Grassroots Win

  • Turning Point Action led a grassroots recall in Mesa, Arizona to oust Julie Spilsbury, a high-profile Republican-for-Harris operative.
  • Tyler Boyer described heavy national media attention and local door-knocking that secured the win against a Democrat-backed faux-Republican.
ADVICE

Deploy Local Full-Time Staff

  • Hire local full-time staff and concentrate resources on small, winnable geographic areas to build durable ground game.
  • Tyler Boyer and Blake Neff recommend focused, long-term investment rather than spreading resources across all 50 states.
ADVICE

Prioritize Chaseable Voter Pools

  • Focus resources where data shows the most chaseable, low-propensity votes instead of trying to be omnipresent.
  • Tyler Boyer said you can calculate required staff per precinct and should prioritize states with winnable vote pools.
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