
The DSR Network Words Matter: Crazier Craziness from Trump Lies Ahead
Oct 30, 2025
Norm Ornstein, a veteran scholar of Congress and political commentator, joins David Rothkopf to discuss the current political landscape. They analyze why Republicans continue the government shutdown and the negative impacts of suspended SNAP benefits, which threaten their own voter base. Ornstein speculates on potential compromises and examines the cascading effects of the shutdown, while also addressing Trump's overseas behavior and possible distractions he might pursue. The conversation reveals the intricate connections between politics, public health, and economic consequences.
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Notable Students From Ornstein's Classroom
- Norm Ornstein recounts his time teaching at Catholic University and notable students.
- He names Tom Donilon, Terry McAuliffe, Ed Gillespie, and Mitch Landrieu as examples.
Shutdown Politics Likely Backfires On Republicans
- Republicans believe Democrats will cave as in past shutdown showdowns.
- Norm Ornstein argues that Democrats are likely to win politically because voters will blame Republicans for harm to health and benefits.
Cutting SNAP Hurts Republican Voters Too
- SNAP stoppage and other effects hit millions including many Republican voters.
- Ornstein highlights that hurting their own base weakens Republicans politically and economically.

