The A to Z English Podcast A to Z Quick Chat 90 | Do you believe in the value of traditional education, or do you think there are better ways to learn and acquire knowledge?
In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Jack is joined by his good friends May, Layla, and Hendrick as they discuss the questions:
Do you believe in the value of traditional education, or do you think there are better ways to learn and acquire knowledge?
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Jack
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00:00:22
Jack
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Jack
Welcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm one of the hosts of this podcast. I am here without my co-host social, however, I am lucky enough to be in the presence of three amazing people may from Malaysia, Hendrick from Indonesia, and Leila.
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Jack
From Saudi Arabia and they're back again for another episode. How are you doing today, guys?
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May
Everything is fine, Jack.
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Hendrick
Yeah, I'm doing good.
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Jack
Don't worry everybody listeners out there. Leila's Wi-Fi is a little bit wobbly today, but we'll I think it's. I think she's gonna make it. I have a good feeling. It's gonna. We're gonna make it through. So what we're going to do today is a quick chat episode and I'm going to ask.
00:01:22
Jack
My guests are question, question and then we're all going to take turns and share our opinions about these questions. So the first the question, the only question today is.
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Jack
Is do you believe in the value of traditional education?
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Jack
Or do you think there are better ways to learn and acquire knowledge?
00:01:49
Jack
And I could read it one more time for our listeners out there so they can catch it. Do you believe in the value of traditional education or do you think there are better ways to learn and acquire knowledge?
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Jack
That's the question, and I'll let whoever wants to go first is free to jump in.
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May
I believe traditional education is still is still necessary or still still value these days.
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May
Because when when we mention about traditional education, I believe it is something to do with going to school, meeting the teachers and sit sitting in the classroom and learn together with.
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May
Our friends, I mean our, our friends, the classroom.
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May
In that way way we will learn.
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May
Exactly how to communicate with people.
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May
In real, in actual or maybe so communication skills is?
00:03:03
May
Very important, although these days will be getting used on the Internet or online platform, but I believe it's still important to be traditional.
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May
As I mean, sitting in the class learning, talking to the teachers directly, so that would be perfect.
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Jack
OK, OK. So may you're.
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Jack
You're still a traditionalist. Do you still think the uh, the current uh approach? The current tradition is still valuable to students.
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May
Yeah, it's still, it is still reasonable because we need to.
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May
Actual communication with I mean face to face communication with each other.
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May
When it comes to computers, we can. I mean, it's not difficult at all and we just we just press 1 button and then we can hide our face and we can maybe beautifying our our face, beautify our face and.
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May
And so but and it it comes to physical communication or with physical contact with people, things are different.
00:04:20
Jack
OK. And you're talking about like online offline education?
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Jack
UM, when you think of traditional, you think of in the classroom, students are facing the teacher. The teacher is at the front of the classroom, but online would be, you know, through some kind of platform like what we're using right here. Zoom to communicate to each other, OK.
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May
So we're just looking at the.
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May
Screen so I I will be able to see you directly.
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May
So you you may reject, but maybe you.
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May
You could be somewhere someone.
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May
Else so same goes today.
00:04:56
Jack
I could be someone else. This I could be AI. I could not even be AI. I might be a robot right now. You don't even know. Yeah.
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May
I can replace myself with my twin sister if I have her.
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May
So anything impossible?
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Jack
Right.
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Jack
Well, let me.
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May
So I I prefer the traditional way.
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Jack
I might start making sounds.
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Layla
Like pee, poo poo. Pee, poo poo, poo poop.
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Jack
You know and do.
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Jack
You do you like? Who's that? Is that Jack?
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Jack
Or is that?
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Jack
A robot.
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May
Everything you want that's not you.
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Jack
Alright, nice. Thanks mate. Let's let's go and we'll just go in in order of what's on my screen right here. Ohh Leila's Layla's asking to participate. OK, go ahead, Layla.
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Layla
I think in when it comes for children, teenagers, I think traditional education is.
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Layla
More important than the other ways of education because they need to be sitting in front of the teacher and to communicate physically with the other students, they also need to improve other skills.
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Layla
Like sports, I mean, which related to sports they.
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Layla
Related to their bodies, I think it's not only about getting information, so it's very important for kids and teenager.
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Layla
But when it comes for adults.
00:06:36
Layla
Yeah. Yeah, we can. We can replace.
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Layla
Traditional education in in another style, in another method like teaching.
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Layla
Learning by online using zoom classes or maybe searching about some information on some websites we can we can study something ourselves. In many cases we don't need to be exactly with the teachers.
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Layla
To get the information. Yeah, there is some benefits I.
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Layla
Reject that, but it's it's possible. It could be, and a lot of people just learn from these resources and they really have good information and knowledge about many different. I can say subjects.
00:07:35
Jack
Mm-hmm. OK. OK, good. Alright. So I think you and may are are thinking very similarly. You guys are on the same page. I think Mr. Hendrick's future teacher or future professor, what do?
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Jack
You think about this, Sir?
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Hendrick
Wow, yeah.
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Hendrick
So yeah, I believe.
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Hendrick
Traditional education it is good. But I mean, like right now we live in the 20th century, which is we have to adapt with the technology, right. And talking about traditional education, I think we talked about like the teacher Center, which is the teacher is the only one.
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Hendrick
Teach their students. But when we talk about, you know, like something change changes right now, I think it should be like student center, which is the student they have to, you know, like.
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Hendrick
Make research on the Internet or they can, you know, like learn something from the Internet or they can read books and then they can come to.
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Hendrick
The they they.
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Hendrick
They can come to the class and then they can discuss with their friends or with.
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Hendrick
The teacher. So yeah, I think personal education, that's good, but.
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Hendrick
We have to, you know.
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Hendrick
And that with the.
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Hendrick
Technology are it?
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Hendrick
Something here?
00:08:54
Jack
Yeah, yeah, interesting. Alright. I'm gonna throw my two cents in here. I'm going to agree with with Hendrick. Teaching should be student centered, not teacher centered. So the teachers should not be up in front of the room lecturing and talking and telling everybody.
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Hendrick
Yeah. Hey.
00:09:13
Jack
How to do it? You know you should actually focus on students needs.
00:09:19
Jack
And you know the teacher should be floating around the classroom working with students on projects where they get to explore and and and basically kind of discover the knowledge themselves instead of the teacher just telling them what the knowledge is. I mean, I think we.
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Jack
I think I brought up a Chinese proverb the other day, and I I don't remember it exactly, but I'll paraphrase it. It was like.
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Jack
Tell tell a person and they forget in a minute.
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Jack
Read it in a book. You forget it in a day, but if you do something, you remember it for a lifetime, you know? So there's something, something to be said about that the old lecture style teaching, I think needs to go away forever. Like it just doesn't, I don't think.
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Hendrick
Yeah, exactly.
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Jack
It works.
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May
Yes, that's it.
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Jack
But if, but it's much more difficult job, it's a much more difficult job for a teacher to come up with activities and tasks for students where they can explore and discover the knowledge themselves. But if they do it that if you can figure out how to do it that way.
00:10:30
Jack
It's it's really more profound and impactful for the students and yeah, that's the trick. I think of being a good teacher is how do you do that? And sometimes lecturing is just the fastest, easiest way to give the information. But if you can find a better way to do it.
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Jack
It's. That's always better than than just.
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Jack
Doing a lecture.
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Jack
So that's my opinion. Yeah, yeah.
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Hendrick
Yeah. And I think when you know like when the education, it becomes to the student center, I mean like the student, they can explore the more about the activity. So that's really good. That's thing better than they have to yeah. Rather than they have to rely on the teacher.
00:11:08
Jack
Right, they get to use their creativity.
00:11:14
Hendrick
That's that's not really.
00:11:15
Jack
Yeah, providing students with a lot of opportunities to learn a lot of different things and discover things and and and put kind of put the pieces together themselves. You know, instead of you showing them like you have to put this right here together with this, let them discover it on their own. That's a really important thing.
00:11:16
Hendrick
Good, I think.
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Jack
And I think it's hard, you know, it's very hard to do in a, in a classroom full of 24 students, 25 students, thirty students, forty students. How?
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Jack
Do you do that?
00:11:48
Jack
I don't know. I don't have the answer to that. It's a huge challenge and sometimes it's impossible. You know, sometimes it's impossible. But but I think that should be the goal.
00:12:01
Hendrick
Thanks hector.
00:12:02
Jack
All right. Well, you.
00:12:04
Jack
Guys, thank you so much for sharing your opinions. I really appreciate it. I think this is a really important topic and I would love to know what our friends and listeners out there think about this topic.
00:12:17
Jack
UM, the question is, uh, do you believe in the value of traditional education like kind of teacher centered or even like online education or sorry offline education or do you think there are better ways to learn and acquire knowledge which could be student focused or even?
00:12:37
Jack
Using platforms like Zoom or other online platforms and so let us know what you think by sending us an e-mail at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com.
00:12:50
Jack
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00:13:10
Jack
Guys, I appreciate your time today and we'll see you next time. Thanks everybody. Bye.
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