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In this episode, we make the case for getting guys out of their digital worlds and into the wilderness—on purpose, with pressure, and for discipleship. Dan Kinder talks about the camps and “stress experiences” that reshaped his view of manhood, hardship, and faith. Dan shares stories of summiting 14,000-foot peaks, and dreaming up a men’s challenge weekend called “Gauntlet” that uses intentional stress—no phones, strict timelines, and team obstacles—to form godly character. If you’re campus worker wondering how to move young men from waffling to resilient commitment, this conversation will give you vision and practical steps for planning your first backpacking or challenge trip this year.