Heya!!! On today’s show, they’re one of the most inscrutable celebrity couples – or non-couples – ever, no matter how much they keep publicly sharing about their relationship. Yep, it’s Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith. We’re unpacking their unique relationship arrangement and how that Oscars slap really came to pass.

Just a content note up top, there’s a brief mention of child abuse and addiction in this episode. Please take care while listening.

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The most confusing celebrity marriage ever