The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg The Goldberg Doctrine
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Jun 25, 2025 
Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic and a respected voice on international affairs, joins for a captivating discussion. They delve into the fraught dynamics between Iran and Israel, examining the urgent need for proactive strategies against nuclear proliferation. The conversation meanders through the historical complexities of U.S. foreign policy, including reflections on the Obama Doctrine and antisemitism's evolving perceptions in today's political climate. It's a thought-provoking exploration of identity, political narratives, and the challenges of modern governance.
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Jonah and Jeffrey's Mix-up Stories
- Jonah Goldberg shares amusing mix-ups involving emails and prescriptions with Jeffrey Goldberg.
- These mix-ups highlight how frequently people confuse the two due to their similar names and interests.
Trump Prioritizes Optics Over Reality
- Donald Trump's focus is on the spectacle and naming of events rather than their substantive outcomes.
- This reflects his broader tendency to prioritize optics over reality in political events and messaging.
Obama Doctrine Is Cautious Realism
- The Obama Doctrine focused on restraining America's interventionist impulses to avoid making messy conflicts worse.
- This cautious realism led to passivity and unintended tragic consequences, such as in Syria and Ukraine.