Why Cyber Needs Better Storytelling | Jeremy Ladner, Founder and CEO, The CISO Signal Podcast

Field CISO John Carse of SquareX sits down with Jeremy Ladner of The CISO Signal to discuss the critical art of storytelling in cybersecurity leadership. In this episode of Be Fearless podcasts, Jeremy reveals why facts alone fail in the boardroom and how AI is rewriting the rules of social engineering and fraud. The conversation covers why hackers operate like aggressive marketing teams and the dangers of "almost secure" infrastructure. 

00:00 Why the cybersecurity industry is actually a "True Crime" universe
5:17 Spy vs Spy
13:50 The Hero's Journey and how to tell a story
24:42 Most cyber breaches today don't start with brute force
33:02 Why cyber attacks is like sales and marketing
39:02 Bad cybersecurity is a decision problem
49:37 The browser is the "threshold" for attacks
53:15 How AI is both terrifying and exciting
58:12 CISOs are afraid of not being able to convince the organization

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