(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson

(2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt

(14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality

(24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE

(32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement

(54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes

(58:35) Post-interview recap

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