"Modern Relationships" E8: Marriage is a Preparation for Divorce | Agnes Callard & Arnold Brooks
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Feb 28, 2025 
Agnes Callard, a philosopher at the University of Chicago, known for her unique views on marriage, joins her colleague Arnold Brooks, who focuses on Aristotle's insights about relationships. They discuss how their relationship evolved from a student-teacher dynamic into a deep partnership, arguing whether marriage should be transcendent or an achievement. Agnes provocatively claims that "marriage is a preparation for divorce," while Arnold suggests the essence of partnership is simply appreciating one's partner's life. Their conversation invites listeners to rethink modern love.
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Unconventional Beginning
- Agnes Callard and Arnold Brooks met when she was his professor.
- Their romantic relationship began while Agnes was married to someone else.
Interpreting Aristotle
- Agnes was initially drawn to Arnold's exceptional ability to interpret Aristotle.
- She later realized this was part of a broader skill in interpreting people.
Choosing a Partner
- Consider what truly matters in a partner, beyond initial attraction.
- Agnes prioritized courage and having children in her partner choice.