At The End Of The Day #1 - A Civil State of Mind w/J.Burden
Feb 3, 2024
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J.Burden, a rising star in the Dissident sphere, discusses Counter-Elite Theory and the Civil Frame. Topics include the significance of a viral beaver clip and memes, experiences with teachers and the concept of authority, the rise of the vengeful sun spirit and acts of violence, the fall of the Soviet Union and aged politicians, the PayPal Mafia and the future of elites, and rising popularity, AI software, and neo-traditionalism.
Elite theory suggests that ruling elites may become disconnected from the needs of the people and resent those who don't conform to their social engineering efforts.
A counter elite, represented by figures like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, has the potential to challenge the prevailing ruling class and temporarily improve certain aspects of society.
The decline of civilization necessitates regaining a sense of purpose and regio, with online spaces offering opportunities for rebuilding and fostering community.
Deep dives
Elite theory and the decline of society
The conversation delves into the concept of elite theory, which suggests that organized minorities tend to prevail over disorganized majorities in society. The discussion highlights the current ruling elite and their potential for becoming incompetent and disconnected from the needs of the people. It explores the idea that the ruling class may resent those who don't conform to their social engineering efforts, leading to a disdain for certain groups. Moreover, it discusses the impact of ideologies that aim to eradicate human differences, the decline of civilizational capital, and the need to reestablish a sense of regio that binds society together.
The rise of the counter elite and the papal mafia
The conversation shifts to the emergence of a counter elite, represented by figures such as Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and others associated with the PayPal mafia. It examines the motives and potential actions of this counter elite, acknowledging their potential for pushing back against the prevailing ruling class. While recognizing that they are not necessarily aligned with the interests of the people, the discussion notes the possibility of a revitalizing moment that could temporarily improve certain aspects of society. It emphasizes the need for a regio that encompasses the domains of social, economic, and political capital to foster cooperation and progress in civilization.
The decline of civilization and the need for rebuilding
The conversation delves into the decline of civilization and the erosion of critical elements such as religion, leadership, and state authority. It emphasizes the necessity of regaining a sense of purpose and regio to drive society forward. The discussion introduces the concept of online spaces as potential venues for rebuilding and fostering a sense of community and cooperation. It highlights the importance of individual, family, and communal efforts to rebuild civilization, recognizing that it may take time and continuous small steps to achieve progress.
The animating principles of the ruling elite
The conversation explores the factors that may underlie the resentful attitudes of the ruling elite towards certain groups in society. It suggests that a sense of resentment can arise when social engineering efforts fail to conform individuals to an egalitarian ideology. Additionally, it considers the impact of ideologies that attempt to erase inherent human differences. The conversation also reflects on a decline in social and economic health resulting from the ruling elite's priorities and their distaste for those who resist conforming to their desired vision of society.
Looking towards the future
The conversation concludes with a focus on the need to uphold realism and avoid falling into utopian ideologies that project an idealized future. It highlights the importance of acknowledging the inherent tragedies of human existence while recognizing the declining state of civilization. The discussion promotes the idea of individual and collective efforts to rebuild society, focusing on regaining a sense of purpose and investing in civilization-building endeavors. It emphasizes the significance of building online communities as a starting point for reconnecting and fostering progress in civilization.