I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Why the Foundations of Islam Are Now Crumbling with Dr. Jay Smith

Jul 18, 2025

In this engaging conversation, Dr. Jay Smith, a Christian apologist with over two decades of experience engaging Muslims, challenges the foundations of Islam. He questions the historicity of Muhammad and the origins of the Qur'an, revealing fascinating insights into Mecca's historical evidence. Dr. Smith discusses the impact of 9/11 on religious dialogue and the significance of the multiple versions of the Qur'an. He also explores the 'three-legged stool' supporting Islam and how contemporary scholars are reassessing traditional narratives.

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ANECDOTE

Jay's 25 Years at Speaker's Corner

Jay Smith shared his 25 years of experience evangelizing at London's Speaker's Corner, dealing with often hostile Muslim crowds.
The environment shifted post-9/11, becoming less violent and more peaceful there.

INSIGHT

Islam's Three-Legged Stool

Islam depends on a "three-legged stool": the Quran, Muhammad, and Mecca.
Without Mecca, the foundation of Muhammad's life and the Quran collapses.

INSIGHT

Mecca's Historicity Questioned

Mecca likely did not exist as a significant town until the late 7th century, decades after Muhammad's death.
Its harsh desert location with no water source challenges its historicity as a major city in Muhammad's time.

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Did the prophet Muhammad actually exist? How did the Qur’an come into existence? And did Islam really begin in Mecca? If you think you know a lot about the historic origins of Islam--think again!

Frank welcomes Dr. Jay Smith to the program, a legendary defender of the faith and top Christian apologist to Muslims who spent over two decades at the legendary Speaker’s Corner in London. Dr. Smith shares personal experiences from his years evangelizing Muslims, challenging Islamic claims, and navigating the theological and historical issues at the core of Islam. During this eye-opening conversation, Frank and Dr. Smith tackle questions like:

What was it like to evangelize at Speaker's Corner in London for 25 years and why is it a magnet for Muslims?
How did the events of 9/11/2001 change the dynamic between the world's two largest competing religious worldviews--Christianity and Islam?
Why is using the Qur’an helpful when sharing the Gospel with Muslims?
What is the “three-legged stool” that supports Islam and how does it compare to Christianity?
If Mecca is so old, why is there no evidence historically?
What are the four genres of S.I.N. (the Standard Islamic Narrative) and why are they being thrown under the bus by some Muslim scholars?
Why are there currently 30 official versions of the Qur’an even though it claims to be eternal and unchanged by human hands?
Why are the Qur’an's earliest manuscripts shockingly incomplete and why was the biography of Muhammad compiled by a German scholar?

Be sure to tune in next week as Frank and Dr. Smith continue unpacking the historical and theological cracks in the foundation of Islam. And don't miss the helpful resources in the list below!

Resources mentioned during the episode:

Dr. Smith's website - https://www.pfandercenter.org/

Dr. Smith's YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@pfanderfilms HOT OFF THE PRESS! Muslim Scholar Throws the Historicity of Muhammad UNDER THE BUS! - https://youtu.be/I7QdOw8RVJ4 Two New Findings That Muhammad Didn't Exist - https://youtu.be/wy_iD6Lf6MY Investigating Islam - https://youtu.be/40DclW84HkM Dismantling Islam PowerPoint Slides - https://bit.ly/dismantlingislam