Michèle Flournoy, Co-Founder of WestExec Advisors and former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, shares her insights into national security and defense strategy. She discusses the ongoing U.S.-China competition in the Indo-Pacific, stressing the role of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company and reputational deterrence. Flournoy highlights the need for enhanced military capabilities and strategic dialogues among allies, emphasizing collaboration with Japan and Australia. The conversation touches on agility and unity in responding to geopolitical challenges, including tensions in Sri Lanka.
Michèle Flournoy highlights the increasing intensity of U.S.-China strategic competition, emphasizing the necessity for protective measures without escalating conflicts.
She underscores the vital role of U.S. alliances in the Indo-Pacific, advocating for cooperative security and mutual understanding to counter China's assertiveness.
Deep dives
Michelle Flournoy's Journey in National Security
Michelle Flournoy transitioned from academia to national security during the height of the Cold War, focusing initially on nuclear arms control and non-proliferation. Her career shifted when she joined the Clinton administration, where she emphasized the importance of mentorship, selecting a significant role under the guidance of Assistant Secretary Ted Warner. Through these experiences, she helped reestablish the strategy office in the Pentagon, which broadened her focus to defense strategy. Flournoy's journey illustrates the intricate blend of opportunity and preparation that shapes careers in national security.
The State of U.S.-China Strategic Competition
U.S.-China strategic competition is intensifying across military, technological, economic, diplomatic, and informational dimensions. The need to protect U.S. interests while avoiding direct conflict with China remains crucial. Flournoy emphasizes that effective competition requires understanding mutual interests and areas for cooperation. Overall, she sees this competition as a long-term challenge that necessitates careful navigation to maintain peace and stability in Asia.
Maintaining Deterrence in the Indo-Pacific
Deterrence in the Indo-Pacific relies on the U.S. military's reputation and capabilities, suggesting that while deterrence is currently stable, continuous reinforcement is needed to prevent atrophy. Flournoy highlights the importance of conveying U.S. resolve regarding Taiwan, emphasizing the need to assure allies like the Philippines. She points out that modernization programs require time to be developed but innovative approaches could accelerate capabilities. Maintaining a robust deterrence posture is essential for managing future crises with China.
The Importance of Alliances and Regional Cooperation
U.S. alliances play a vital role in addressing the challenges posed by China, with a focus on cooperative security arrangements in the Indo-Pacific region. Flournoy argues for respectful engagement rather than coercive pressure on allies, asserting that it is crucial for these partnerships to understand their shared interests. She insists that the dynamics of cooperation cannot be taken for granted, given the complex geopolitical landscape with China's increasing assertiveness. Strengthening relationships through mutual understanding and shared strategies will be critical for maintaining a stable balance of power.
Mike hosts Michèle Flournoy, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of WestExec Advisors. She is also former Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), where she currently serves as Chair of the Board of Directors. Prior to that she served as the as the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy during former President Obama’s first term in office from 2009-2012. They discuss deterrence and developments in the Indo-Pacific.
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