Ep. 244 - Artificial Intelligence: Definitions and Evidence for God w/Dr. Selmer Bringjord
Aug 13, 2023
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Dr. Selmer Bringjord, a leading figure in the philosophy of artificial intelligence and director of an AI lab, dives into fascinating intersections of AI and consciousness. He critiques physicalism while presenting a theory-first approach to understanding reality. The conversation touches on the philosophical debates around machine intelligence and implications for creativity in AI. Most intriguingly, he proposes an argument for the existence of God through the lens of artificial intelligence, raising profound questions about human cognition and divine creativity.
Dr. Selmer Bringsjord critiques the physicalist bias in AI, asserting that algorithms and abstract concepts exist outside physical reality.
He emphasizes the necessity of merging philosophical insights with applied AI research to challenge the limitations of current machine intelligence.
Deep dives
The Distinction Between Physicalism and Abstract Concepts
The discussion highlights the philosophical contention between physicalism and the belief in abstract or non-physical entities. Dr. Bringsjord argues that many in the field of AI hold a physicalist bias, assuming that all aspects of existence can be explained physically. He challenges this view by asserting that algorithms and abstract objects, such as mathematical concepts, do not possess a physicality. Through this lens, he suggests that just as abstract concepts exist outside the physical realm, so too do humans embody more than their physical forms.
A Hybrid Approach to AI Development
Dr. Bringsjord emphasizes the importance of combining philosophical insights with practical AI development. He founded an AI lab to bridge the gap between understanding theoretical foundations and actual machine intelligence. This dual approach allows him to critique both philosophical arguments against machine intelligence and develop intelligent machines. By engaging in hands-on AI research, he claims he gains credibility when addressing criticisms regarding machine capabilities.
Comparative Analysis of AI Approaches
The podcast contrasts 'Good Old-Fashioned AI' (GOFAI), which emphasizes logical reasoning, with connectionist approaches like neural networks. Although GOFAI had significant contributions in early AI development, it has largely been overshadowed by modern advancements in neural networks. Dr. Bringsjord points out that neural networks process information through numerical representation, making them fundamentally different from logic-based approaches. This shift in dominant methodology raises questions about the effectiveness of traditional reasoning versus modern AI techniques.
The Limitations of AI and Evolutionary Narratives
Dr. Bringsjord articulates a critical argument against the notion that AI and human cognitive capabilities evolve similarly through naturalistic processes. He posits that the current state of AI operates at a level comparable to early human hunter-gatherers, lacking higher-level cognitive processes. This observation leads to questioning the mechanisms behind human consciousness and intelligence, suggesting that evolution alone does not account for these complexities. Ultimately, he raises concerns about the broader implications of AI's limitations, proposing that they point to a need for explanations beyond naturalistic frameworks.
In episode 244 of the Parker's Pensées Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Selmer Bringsjord to discuss his work on the philosophy of artificial intelligence as well as his work running an AI lab. We also touch on his argument for God from artificial intelligence.:
http://kryten.mm.rpi.edu/bringsjord_arggodfromai_0702211715NYv4.pdf
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0:00 - Who is Selmer Bringsjord?
6:21 - what is Good Old Fashioned Artificial Intelligence?
10:20 - Will Transformers Neural Nets Take White Collar Jobs?
18:39 - Roderick Chisholm got Selmer Bringsjord into Artificial Intelligence
21:38 - What is artificial general intelligence?
32:50 - the two goals of AI theorists: mapping the mind and mimicking the mind
37:33 - Property and Substance Dualism
41:29 - What are Algorithms?
45:46 - argument from Artificial Intelligence to God
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