The Smylie Show 276: LIV’s 72-hole pivot, DP World Tour crossroads, and Smylie’s dad-back disaster
Nov 11, 2025
01:03:57
Before Smylie Kaufman and Charlie Hulme get to golf’s biggest news of the past week - LIV Golf moving from 54 to 72 holes - we begin by detailing Smylie’s brutal onset of “dad back” that left him crawling around the house. Charlie then recounts his cathartic return to golf at Hidden Creek - from a rain-soaked finish to a well-deserved steam shower.
From there, the guys dig into LIV’s move to 72-hole events: does it help majors performance, OWGR hopes, or brand identity? They hit fan reactions, Rory’s take, player pathways, and why 72 holes might help some stars while blurring what made LIV different.
In the back half of the episode, they tackle the DP World Tour dilemma: Rahm and Hatton’s appeals, Ryder Cup eligibility, the PGA Tour partnership, TV product realities, and whether “home games,” nations, or mixed-gender teams could make team golf click.
Chapters:
00:00 On the road; off-season check-in
00:28 “Dad-back” hits: stairs, stroller, and full-body spasms
04:59 Crawling the house, bathroom saga, and the recovery plan
07:24 Dry needling, PT, and week-to-week swing timeline
07:50 Hidden Creek trip: first rounds back after surgery
09:51 Birdies in a downpour, finishing 18, and the steam-shower reward
12:50 News segue: DP World Tour wrap, Ben Griffin’s win, LIV headlines
13:31 Main topic: LIV moves from 54 to 72—first reactions
14:16 OWGR reality vs format; the closed-shop and pathways problem
15:38 Preparing for majors versus blurring LIV’s brand identity
17:02 Rory’s comments and field-strength implications
18:05 What would actually move the needle: tee times, relegation, field size
18:49 Why 54 could create different winners vs 72’s “truer” leaderboard
19:29 Shotgun starts, sleeping on leads, and pressure differences
21:22 Everyone backtracks sometimes: gear, coaches, and sports takes
25:06 “54” spin vs holes played; player-lens view on 72 vs 54
26:21 The game-within-the-game over 72 holes; form building before majors
27:16 Major-exemption math and why results at the majors are the judge
33:13 Expectation-setting for LIV at the Masters and beyond
34:19 Shift to DP World Tour: Rahm/Hatton appeals, fines, and Ryder Cup stakes
35:36 DPWT’s position in the ecosystem: partner with PGA Tour or pivot toward LIV?
40:03 Funding realities, TV product challenges, and sustainability questions
41:12 What if DPWT had been the Saudi-backed “strong international tour”?
42:42 US TV windows vs international schedules; business trade-offs
45:20 Team-golf ideas: legends + current pros + LPGA, or nations-based squads
46:47 Nations/home-game model and why fans might care more
47:35 Make it a fun product, not an OWGR product; formats beyond 72-hole stroke play
50:05 Borrowing from what works in modern golf content without breaking broadcast logic
51:26 Tape delay vs betting/live; what matters for engagement and sponsors
53:14 Bottom line: does the 72-hole shift simply aim at better major results?
53:41 Has LIV created a star? Tom McKibbin as a possible homegrown example
55:16 DPWT cards via top-10 pathway; late-season stakes and names to watch (closing)
#Golf #SmylieShow #LIVGolf #PGATour #DPWorldTour #OWGR #RyderCup #JonRahm #TyrrellHatton #HiddenCreek #GolfPodcast
From there, the guys dig into LIV’s move to 72-hole events: does it help majors performance, OWGR hopes, or brand identity? They hit fan reactions, Rory’s take, player pathways, and why 72 holes might help some stars while blurring what made LIV different.
In the back half of the episode, they tackle the DP World Tour dilemma: Rahm and Hatton’s appeals, Ryder Cup eligibility, the PGA Tour partnership, TV product realities, and whether “home games,” nations, or mixed-gender teams could make team golf click.
Chapters:
00:00 On the road; off-season check-in
00:28 “Dad-back” hits: stairs, stroller, and full-body spasms
04:59 Crawling the house, bathroom saga, and the recovery plan
07:24 Dry needling, PT, and week-to-week swing timeline
07:50 Hidden Creek trip: first rounds back after surgery
09:51 Birdies in a downpour, finishing 18, and the steam-shower reward
12:50 News segue: DP World Tour wrap, Ben Griffin’s win, LIV headlines
13:31 Main topic: LIV moves from 54 to 72—first reactions
14:16 OWGR reality vs format; the closed-shop and pathways problem
15:38 Preparing for majors versus blurring LIV’s brand identity
17:02 Rory’s comments and field-strength implications
18:05 What would actually move the needle: tee times, relegation, field size
18:49 Why 54 could create different winners vs 72’s “truer” leaderboard
19:29 Shotgun starts, sleeping on leads, and pressure differences
21:22 Everyone backtracks sometimes: gear, coaches, and sports takes
25:06 “54” spin vs holes played; player-lens view on 72 vs 54
26:21 The game-within-the-game over 72 holes; form building before majors
27:16 Major-exemption math and why results at the majors are the judge
33:13 Expectation-setting for LIV at the Masters and beyond
34:19 Shift to DP World Tour: Rahm/Hatton appeals, fines, and Ryder Cup stakes
35:36 DPWT’s position in the ecosystem: partner with PGA Tour or pivot toward LIV?
40:03 Funding realities, TV product challenges, and sustainability questions
41:12 What if DPWT had been the Saudi-backed “strong international tour”?
42:42 US TV windows vs international schedules; business trade-offs
45:20 Team-golf ideas: legends + current pros + LPGA, or nations-based squads
46:47 Nations/home-game model and why fans might care more
47:35 Make it a fun product, not an OWGR product; formats beyond 72-hole stroke play
50:05 Borrowing from what works in modern golf content without breaking broadcast logic
51:26 Tape delay vs betting/live; what matters for engagement and sponsors
53:14 Bottom line: does the 72-hole shift simply aim at better major results?
53:41 Has LIV created a star? Tom McKibbin as a possible homegrown example
55:16 DPWT cards via top-10 pathway; late-season stakes and names to watch (closing)
#Golf #SmylieShow #LIVGolf #PGATour #DPWorldTour #OWGR #RyderCup #JonRahm #TyrrellHatton #HiddenCreek #GolfPodcast