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100 Year Thinkers, Ep. 4 | Chris Mayer & Robert Hagstrom on the Labels That Destroy Returns

Jan 30, 2026
Robert Hagstrom, investor and author on Buffett and market history, and Chris Mayer, investor known for long-term compounding and 100 Baggers, discuss labels that mislead investing. They explore time‑binding and maps versus territory, market concentration, AI as a business label, valuation and ROIC, and why indexing and narratives can warp thinking.
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Multiples Depend On Durable ROIC

  • High valuation alone doesn't prove overvaluation; sustaining high ROIC can justify high multiples.
  • A company's map (financials) can hide the real business dynamics driving long-term compounding.
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Concentration Is A Symptom, Not A Signal

  • Index concentration just shows which firms outperformed, not that the market must revert.
  • Ask which assumptions must remain true for that concentration to be justified rather than use it as a timing signal.
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Index Construction Drives The Narrative

  • Market-cap weighted indexes amplify winners and create the headlines we call 'concentration'.
  • Whether a stock is overvalued is independent of its index weight; evaluate the business economics instead.
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