Curiously Kaitlyn

Did the Father Forsake the Son on the Cross? (HP+ Vault)

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Dec 30, 2025
The podcast dives deep into Jesus' cry of dereliction on the cross, exploring the complex interplay of the Trinity. Is the Father truly forsaking the Son, or is it a profound expression of human suffering? They discuss the implications of penal substitutionary atonement and how misinterpretations can harm the understanding of God's nature. Through the lenses of Psalm 22 and relational theology, they emphasize the unbroken bond within the Trinity, concluding that rather than abandonment, Jesus conveys deep human vulnerability in suffering.
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Two Ways To Read The Cry

  • The debate centers on whether Jesus' cry means actual divine abandonment or a human feeling of abandonment.
  • Positions range from relational severing of the Trinity to Jesus expressing shared human suffering.
ANECDOTE

First Paper Sparked A Theologian

  • Kaitlyn wrote her first seminary paper disagreeing with a professor on this exact question and received an A.
  • That assignment sparked her interest in pursuing theology as a vocation.
INSIGHT

Psalm 22 Frames The Cry

  • Psalm 22 mixes human lament with trust and the gospel writers likely expect readers to recall the whole psalm.
  • Quoting the first line can intentionally invoke the psalm's later vindication and resurrection imagery.
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