The Deep End With Lecrae

Tony Evans and Beth Moore Get Honest About the American Church

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Jul 31, 2026
Jeffrey A. Johnson Sr., longtime Oak Cliff pastor; Beth Moore, Bible teacher and founder of Living Proof Ministries; and Tony Evans, pastor and theologian. They debate why young people are leaving, handing leadership to the next generation, faith and politics, women’s roles in ministry, enduring pain and prolonged singleness, and how to finish well.
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INSIGHT

Kingdom Means God's Agenda Not Our Politics

  • The kingdom is God's agenda, not a racial or political agenda.
  • Lecrae and Tony Evans emphasize unity across backgrounds under God's rule, not party or identity divisions.
ANECDOTE

What Passing The Mantle Really Feels Like

  • Transitioning leadership has mixed emotions: loss of routine and joy in God’s orchestration.
  • Tony Evans describes missing longtime patterns but delighting in seeing how God used Jonathan's life in succession.
INSIGHT

Young People See Hypocrisy More Than Theology

  • Young people see dissonance between preached beliefs and practiced behavior in churches.
  • Beth Moore warns of promotional messaging and platform-seeking that undermines trust in Scripture and long obedience to the Spirit.
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