Big Technology Podcast

He Helped Train ChatGPT. It Was Traumatizing. – With Richard Mathenge

May 17, 2023
Richard Mathenge, a former team lead at Sama, shares his gripping experiences from training OpenAI's GPT models in Nairobi. He reveals the harsh realities of his job, including exposure to explicit content and insufficient mental health support. Mathenge discusses the toll this work took on him and his team, highlighting payment disparities and the urgent need for proper advocacy and mental health resources in tech. The conversation emphasizes the human side of AI training and the ethical dilemmas faced by those behind the technology.
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Laid Off from LIDAR

  • Richard Mathenge started at Sama in July 2021, working on a LIDAR project for self-driving cars.
  • He and his colleagues were later laid off due to friction with management.
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Rehired for ChatGPT

  • After being laid off, Mathenge was rehired for the ChatGPT project, leading a team of ten.
  • Their task involved rating text based on benchmarks like illegal, erotic, and non-erotic content.
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Traumatizing Text

  • Mathenge describes the traumatizing nature of the text, including graphic depictions of bestiality and child abuse.
  • Despite Sama's promises, adequate counseling was not provided to cope with this exposure.
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