The FAIK Files Attack Your Company with Deepfakes (feat. Jason Thatcher of Breacher.ai)
Jan 16, 2026
48:35
Welcome back to The FAIK Files!
In this week's special interview episode:
- We sit down with Jason Thatcher, a Deepfake Red Teaming expert from Breacher.ai.
- We discuss why static deepfakes (like voicemail) are currently outperforming live video attacks.
- The emerging threat of "Agentic AI" and how it changes the landscape for 2026.
- Why teaching people to "spot the glitch" creates a false sense of security.
Want to leave us a voicemail? Here's the magic link to do just that: https://sayhi.chat/FAIK
You can also join our Discord server here: https://faik.to/discord
*** NOTES AND REFERENCES ***
Guest: Jason Thatcher:
- Jason is a leader in Deepfake Red Teaming, testing people, processes, and technology against AI threats.
- Check out Breacher.ai: https://breacher.ai/
Key Topics & References:
- Agentic AI: The shift from human-in-the-loop attacks to fully automated, multi-stage orchestration of phishing and voice attacks.
- The $25 Million Deepfake Scam: We discussed the referenced January 2024 case where a finance worker in Hong Kong was tricked by a deepfaked CFO video conference.
- Red Teaming Ethics: How to simulate attacks without creating "leakable disinformation" or jeopardizing employee jobs.
- Defense Strategy: Moving away from visual detection (shadows/glitches) toward context awareness, out-of-band verification, and slowing down.
*** THE BOILERPLATE ***
About The FAIK Files:
The FAIK Files is an offshoot project from Perry Carpenter's most recent book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions.
- Get the Book: FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions (Amazon Associates link)
- Check out the website for more info: https://thisbookisfaik.com
Check out Perry & Mason's other show, the Digital Folklore Podcast:
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-folklore/id1657374458
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2v1BelkrbSRSkHEP4cYffj?si=u4XTTY4pR4qEqh5zMNSVQA
Want to connect with us? Here's how:
Connect with Perry:
- Perry on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/perrycarpenter
- Perry on X: https://x.com/perrycarpenter
- Perry on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/perrycarpenter.bsky.social
Connect with Mason:
- Mason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mason-amadeus-a853a7242/
- Mason on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/wickedinterest.ing
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