Economist Podcasts The Intelligence: Our meeting with Macron
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May 3, 2024 
Emmanuel Macron, the President of France, is known for his ambitious visions and deep insights into global issues. In a candid discussion with Sophie Pedder, The Economist's Paris bureau chief, Macron expresses grave concerns about Europe's future, highlighting geopolitical threats from Russia and the rise of nationalism. He stresses the urgent need for collective action and Europe’s independence in defense matters. Macron also reflects on his evolving stance regarding the Ukraine conflict, urging a stronger, unified approach as the continent faces daunting challenges ahead.
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Macron's Three Wars
- Emmanuel Macron's perspective is framed by three wars: WWI, WWII, and the war in Ukraine.
- He uses these to highlight Europe's vulnerability and need for preparedness.
Europe's Triple Threat
- Macron sees Europe facing three key risks: geopolitical (Russia), economic/technological (falling behind US/China), and democratic (nationalism).
- These risks are interconnected and exacerbate each other.
Russia: The Immediate Threat
- Macron views Russia as the biggest immediate threat and is concerned about deterring further aggression.
- He hasn't ruled out sending troops to Ukraine and advocates for a stronger European defense.