

Apocalypse Now | Interview: Ross Douthat
63 snips Jul 10, 2025
Ross Douthat, a New York Times columnist known for his conservative insights, joins Jonah Goldberg to discuss the resilience of American democracy. They explore the evolving landscape of conservatism, touching on the recent shifts in Catholic leadership. Douthat shares his thoughts on Peter Thiel's political influence and the ethical dilemmas posed by technology. They also dive into the idea of using crises to expand government power and the potential for a new political party to emerge in today's landscape.
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America's Resilience Amidst Challenges
- Ross Douthat believes America is in better shape than many think despite serious problems.
- He sees the US as a last hope amid worsening global demographic, cultural, and political challenges.
Pope Leo XIV's Enigmatic Leadership
- Pope Leo XIV is a mysterious figure, with little clear agenda compared to Pope Francis.
- He symbolizes a return to papal normalcy but his long-term direction remains uncertain.
Peter Thiel's Political Approach
- Peter Thiel admits he doesn't understand Washington politics deeply.
- His political engagement is more about strategic bets than governing or policy mastery.