Ep. 381 Anesthesia vs. Moderate Sedation: A Spectrum of Care with Dr. Vishal Kumar
Nov 3, 2023
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Interventional radiologists discuss the spectrum of patient sedation for IR procedures, emphasizing the fluidity between local anesthesia, moderate sedation, and deep sedation. They highlight the need for trauma-informed care and comprehensive patient education. The decision for anesthesia is influenced by factors such as the procedure type, patient's condition, and provider preference. The game-changing concept of having an anesthesia team present for real-time monitoring is explored. The podcast also touches on topics like G2 tubes, lidocaine toxicity, patient-centered care, and the importance of separate roles for sedation and procedure.
Effective moderate sedation can be achieved by using lidocaine liberally and creating a calm environment.
In certain cases, involving anesthesia is necessary for patient comfort and safety during complex interventional radiology procedures.
Understanding the ASA classification system helps determine the appropriate level of sedation, advocating for anesthesia involvement when needed.
Deep dives
Using Lidocaine and Other Techniques for Moderate Sedation
One technique for achieving effective moderate sedation is to use lidocaine liberally, providing extra comfort to patients. The use of buffered lidocaine can also be beneficial in minimizing pain and discomfort during procedures. Additionally, using a combination of medications such as Benadryl and Zofran ahead of the procedure can help relax patients and reduce anxiety. Creating a quiet environment and providing language and cultural concordance can also contribute to a more successful moderate sedation experience. It's important to remember that the goal is to avoid complications such as hypotension and airway issues, and to always be attentive to patients' comfort levels during the procedure.
Recognizing the Need for Anesthesia in Certain Cases
In specific cases, such as G-tube placements, kyphoplasty, and certain vascular procedures, involving anesthesia may be necessary to ensure patient comfort, cardiovascular stability, and airway control. By properly recognizing the patient's medical history, level of illness, and potential complications, IR practitioners can advocate for the involvement of anesthesia when needed. This not only enhances patient safety but also allows interventional radiologists to focus on the procedure itself rather than managing sedation. Collaboration between IR and anesthesia teams is crucial to the success of these complex cases.
Recognizing the ASA Classification System's Importance
Understanding the ASA classification system is key to determining the level of sedation needed for each patient. Patients with ASA 3 or 4 classification, such as those with obstructive sleep apnea, severe systemic diseases, and recent strokes, often require deeper sedation or even general anesthesia. Recognizing the severity of patients' illnesses and the potential risks ensures that the appropriate level of sedation is provided, leading to better patient outcomes and experiences. It's important for IR specialists to advocate for anesthesia involvement based on the ASA classification and avoid compromising patient safety.
Complications to Avoid with Moderate Sedation
When performing moderate sedation, it's crucial to avoid complications such as under- or over-sedation. Finding the right balance of sedation is key, along with closely monitoring patients for signs of hypotension, airway issues, and nausea. Implementing techniques like using lidocaine liberally, pre-medicating patients with medications like Benadryl and Zofran, and creating a calm environment can contribute to a smoother sedation experience. Being attentive to the patient's condition and needs throughout the procedure is essential in preventing adverse events and ensuring patient safety.
The Role of Anesthesia in Enhancing Patient Care
Anesthesia plays a crucial role in enhancing patient care during interventional radiology procedures. By involving anesthesia, interventional radiologists can focus on the procedure itself while ensuring patient comfort, cardiovascular stability, and airway control. This is particularly important in cases such as G-tube placements, kyphoplasty, and complex vascular procedures where the patient's medical condition or the nature of the procedure requires careful sedation management. Collaboration between IR and anesthesia teams, as well as advocating for the appropriate level of anesthesia based on patient needs, is key to providing optimal care and minimizing complications.
In this episode, interventional radiologists Dr. Aaron Fritts, Dr. Vishal Kumar, and Dr. Chris Beck discuss types of sedation for IR procedures.
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SHOW NOTES
We start the discussion off by dividing the spectrum of patient sedation into three tiers: local anesthesia, moderate sedation with fentanyl and Versed, and deep sedation which encompasses anything beyond fentanyl and Versed. The conversation revolves around the fluidity of this spectrum, underscoring the ease with which patients can transition between these sedation levels, thereby adding layers of complexity to the decision-making process. Chris emphasizes the significance of embracing trauma-informed care, highlighting the potential for IR procedures to be maximally traumatic despite their minimally invasive nature. The doctors emphasize the importance of establishing comprehensive pre-procedural patient education to align expectations about pain management.
Procedures that automatically trigger the requirement for an anesthesia team include procedures such as TIPS, tumor ablations, as well as declot procedures more recently. Decisions regarding anesthesia for these procedures are additionally influenced by factors such as the patient's condition, history of methadone exposure, the preference of the IR providers, and the comfort level of nursing staff.
Vishal highlights the game-changing concept of having an anesthesia team present for real-time monitoring and the administration of nerve blocks during IR procedures. This collaboration is especially helpful for complex interventions. Vishal advocates for prioritizing patient safety over logistical considerations. He firmly contends IRs should be empowered to decide the level of anesthesia care since they have the most experience with the specific procedures and are best suited to recognize anesthesia needs.
The conversation delves into the American Society of Anesthesiologists (ASA) scoring system, which categorizes patients based on their health status from ASA 1 (healthy) to ASA 6 (brain death). While IR procedures usually involve ASA 3 or ASA 4 patients, today’s discussion uncovers the tendency among clinicians to underestimate a patient's ASA classification while overestimating their pain tolerance. The discussion raises critical questions about whether the IR community has grown complacent with moderate sedation in procedures and whether alternative approaches are warranted.
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RESOURCES
American Society of Anesthesiologists Classification (ASA) Classification:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441940/
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